Derby Challenge Field

[mocksluzer]

Gimme some waffle fries! Karma for an awesome pic.

[uscmikey]

Here are the early returns:

1. Virginia 7-1
2. Columbia 6-2
3. UCLA 5-2-1
4. Miami 5-3
5. Rhodes 4-3-1

Congrats to Virginia for a well-deserved win.

[theChosenOne]

Here are the early returns:

1. Virginia 7-1
2. Columbia 6-2
3. UCLA 5-2-1
4. Miami 5-3
5. Rhodes 4-3-1

Congrats to Virginia for a well-deserved win.

Yes and good 'ol Buck Vines brought home the top attorney award. I have forgotten the guy's name from UVA that won the top witness award. There are only 2 individual awards given at this tourney.

[Rhodes_Strasberg]

Yes and good 'ol Buck Vines brought home the top attorney award. I have forgotten the guy's name from UVA that won the top witness award. There are only 2 individual awards given at this tourney.

Can I get a teeball bat for 20 ranking?

[Burning Capitol]

Can I get a teeball bat for 20 ranking?

hahaha you get an engraved wiffle ball bat..should be coming in the mail soon

[Rhodes_Munsey]

Congrats to UVA for a well deserved win!

Also, thanks to Columbia, Northwood, Furman, and Miami for great rounds

[LetTheRecordReflect]

Who do you guys think will win this weekend?  I would be willing to bet money on UVA

Looks like you won some money.

This tournament looks like a blood bath. 4.5 wins for 5th place? Wow. Congrats to UVA and Columbia. I'm looking forward to seeing what both teams do at GAMTI.

[Burning Capitol]

Looks like you won some money.

This tournament looks like a blood bath. 4.5 wins for 5th place? Wow. Congrats to UVA and Columbia. I'm looking forward to seeing what both teams do at GAMTI.

you are exactly right it was a blood bath and a great tourney

[Renegade]

Any chance of a tab summary?

[RC012]

Yeah a tab summary would be nice. They've already released the summary for The Macalaster trials (nov 6-8) so the Derby tabs should be coming soon. I'd like to see them. They should clear up a lot.

Word on the street is that the defending national champions went either 0-8 or 1-7 (ive heard a couple  things from different people). Rhodes 1082 (the B team i think) was the one that placed 5th with a CS of 21. Furman also went 4-3-1 but lost on CS (i think Furman's was around 17).

Of course, everyone already knows that B. Vines won the Outstanding attorney award. So congrats to him and all of Columbia on their second place finish.

I've also heard that Furman pulled a cheap shot on the prosecution side. From what i understand, they had a blind student play Maxwell and said that the accusation that he committed the murder, instead of Jackie, was absurd. Granted, i do not have personal knowledge of this so some corroboration would be nice. If you guys know anything then speak up. Let's be sure to give Furman a fair shake

All in all, it sounds like it was a brutal tournament

[Bovice]

Rhodes 1082 (the B team i think) was the one that placed 5th with a CS of 21. Furman also went 4-3-1 but lost on CS (i think Furman's was around 17).

comfirm

I've also heard that Furman pulled a cheap shot on the prosecution side. From what i understand, they had a blind student play Maxwell and said that the accusation that he committed the murder, instead of Jackie, was absurd. Granted, i do not have personal knowledge of this so some corroboration would be nice. If you guys know anything then speak up. Let's be sure to give Furman a fair shake

i can say that I saw Furman's blind student in the hallway dressed in a jump suit, and that I know they were going prosecution that round, so confirmation so far as that.

[Nur Rauch]

comfirm


i can say that I saw Furman's blind student in the hallway dressed in a jump suit, and that I know they were going prosecution that round, so confirmation so far as that.

Wow. I would have had no shame pointing out the special instruction violation to a tab room.

[MChong37]

If it is true that Furman had a blind student play Maxwell in order to advance case theory, I agree that it's pretty absurd, but it raises some interesting points.

It doesn't seem fair to deny a student from participating in mock trial because s/he is blind.  At the same time, however, using it to advance case theory seems like it is a violation of the special instructions. 

And that raises a question of how far a defense attorney can go... At what point, in crossing a blind Maxwell, does the attorney cross the line before it simply becomes mean?  Where exactly is the distinction drawn?  If I'm defending a client accused of murder and a blind Prosecution witness takes the stand, I would definitely want to discredit the witness given my duty to my client.  How far can one go though?

[mocksluzer]

I wonder what CX could've been like if the CXer started inquiring about how Maxwell performed as a movie director.

[Nur Rauch]

If it is true that Furman had a blind student play Maxwell in order to advance case theory, I agree that it's pretty absurd, but it raises some interesting points.

It doesn't seem fair to deny a student from participating in mock trial because s/he is blind.  At the same time, however, using it to advance case theory seems like it is a violation of the special instructions. 

And that raises a question of how far a defense attorney can go... At what point, in crossing a blind Maxwell, does the attorney cross the line before it simply becomes mean?  Where exactly is the distinction drawn?  If I'm defending a client accused of murder and a blind Prosecution witness takes the stand, I would definitely want to discredit the witness given my duty to my client.  How far can one go though?

In the first place, it doesn't make a whole lot of sense that a film director is blind, but anyway... It's fine as long as they don't actually use it to advance their case theory, which they did. They invited a tab room complaint, and they sure as heck invited using that fact back against them if the other team chose to do so.